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#60859: "First player advantage: alternative start option?"
#60859: "First player advantage: alternative start option?"
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• Si us plau, copia i enganxa el missatge d'error que veus a la pantalla, si és que n'hi ha algun.
Of course there are not enough plays and no statistics yet.
But just looking at the game and the fact that it ends immediately when any player has placed 15 flowers: it seems very likely that the first player might have a significant advantage.
There is a BGG post about it also, that proposes an alternative start:
boardgamegeek.com/thread/2814687/simple-variant-removes-first-player-advantage
Seems like an option that would at least be worth discussing with the publisher?
At the least I would suggest to keep a statistic on BGA indicating if the 1st player won or not.
Then you would be able to check if there really is a significant 1st player advantage after many plays.
• Si us plau, què volies fer, què vas fer i que va succeir
• Quin és el meu navegador?
Safari v15.3
• Si us plau, copieu/enganxeu el text mostrat en anglès en comptes del teu idioma. Si tens una captura de pantalla d'aquest error (bona pràctica), pots utilitzar Imgur.com per pujar-ho i copiar i enganxar el link aquí.
Of course there are not enough plays and no statistics yet.
But just looking at the game and the fact that it ends immediately when any player has placed 15 flowers: it seems very likely that the first player might have a significant advantage.
There is a BGG post about it also, that proposes an alternative start:
boardgamegeek.com/thread/2814687/simple-variant-removes-first-player-advantage
Seems like an option that would at least be worth discussing with the publisher?
At the least I would suggest to keep a statistic on BGA indicating if the 1st player won or not.
Then you would be able to check if there really is a significant 1st player advantage after many plays.
• És aquest text disponible al sistema de traducció? Si és així, ha sigut traduït fa més de 24 hores?
• Quin és el meu navegador?
Safari v15.3
• Si us plau, expliqueu el vostre suggeriment de manera precisa i concisa, per que sigui el més fàcil d'entendre possible.
Of course there are not enough plays and no statistics yet.
But just looking at the game and the fact that it ends immediately when any player has placed 15 flowers: it seems very likely that the first player might have a significant advantage.
There is a BGG post about it also, that proposes an alternative start:
boardgamegeek.com/thread/2814687/simple-variant-removes-first-player-advantage
Seems like an option that would at least be worth discussing with the publisher?
At the least I would suggest to keep a statistic on BGA indicating if the 1st player won or not.
Then you would be able to check if there really is a significant 1st player advantage after many plays.
• Quin és el meu navegador?
Safari v15.3
• Què es mostrava a la pantalla quan estaves bloquejat (pantalla en blanc? Part de la interfície del joc? Missatge d'error?)
Of course there are not enough plays and no statistics yet.
But just looking at the game and the fact that it ends immediately when any player has placed 15 flowers: it seems very likely that the first player might have a significant advantage.
There is a BGG post about it also, that proposes an alternative start:
boardgamegeek.com/thread/2814687/simple-variant-removes-first-player-advantage
Seems like an option that would at least be worth discussing with the publisher?
At the least I would suggest to keep a statistic on BGA indicating if the 1st player won or not.
Then you would be able to check if there really is a significant 1st player advantage after many plays.
• Quin és el meu navegador?
Safari v15.3
• Quina part de les regles no s'han respectat per l'adaptació de BGA
Of course there are not enough plays and no statistics yet.
But just looking at the game and the fact that it ends immediately when any player has placed 15 flowers: it seems very likely that the first player might have a significant advantage.
There is a BGG post about it also, that proposes an alternative start:
boardgamegeek.com/thread/2814687/simple-variant-removes-first-player-advantage
Seems like an option that would at least be worth discussing with the publisher?
At the least I would suggest to keep a statistic on BGA indicating if the 1st player won or not.
Then you would be able to check if there really is a significant 1st player advantage after many plays.
• És visible la violació de les normes durant la repetició de la partida? Si es així, en quin número de moviment?
• Quin és el meu navegador?
Safari v15.3
• Quina va ser l'acció del joc que volies fer?
Of course there are not enough plays and no statistics yet.
But just looking at the game and the fact that it ends immediately when any player has placed 15 flowers: it seems very likely that the first player might have a significant advantage.
There is a BGG post about it also, that proposes an alternative start:
boardgamegeek.com/thread/2814687/simple-variant-removes-first-player-advantage
Seems like an option that would at least be worth discussing with the publisher?
At the least I would suggest to keep a statistic on BGA indicating if the 1st player won or not.
Then you would be able to check if there really is a significant 1st player advantage after many plays.
• Què intentes fer per dur a terme aquesta acció del joc?
• Què va passar quan ho vas intentar fer (missatge d'error, missatge de la barra d'estat de la partida, ...)?
• Quin és el meu navegador?
Safari v15.3
• A quina fase del joc va passar l'error (quina era la ordre en curs)?
Of course there are not enough plays and no statistics yet.
But just looking at the game and the fact that it ends immediately when any player has placed 15 flowers: it seems very likely that the first player might have a significant advantage.
There is a BGG post about it also, that proposes an alternative start:
boardgamegeek.com/thread/2814687/simple-variant-removes-first-player-advantage
Seems like an option that would at least be worth discussing with the publisher?
At the least I would suggest to keep a statistic on BGA indicating if the 1st player won or not.
Then you would be able to check if there really is a significant 1st player advantage after many plays.
• Què va passar quan vas intentar dur a terme l'acció del joc (missatge d'error, missatge de la barra d'estat del joc, ...)?
• Quin és el meu navegador?
Safari v15.3
• Si us plau, descriviu el problema de visualització. Si tens una captura de pantalla d'aquest error (bona pràctica), pots utilitzar Imgur.com per pujar-ho i copiar i enganxar el link aquí.
Of course there are not enough plays and no statistics yet.
But just looking at the game and the fact that it ends immediately when any player has placed 15 flowers: it seems very likely that the first player might have a significant advantage.
There is a BGG post about it also, that proposes an alternative start:
boardgamegeek.com/thread/2814687/simple-variant-removes-first-player-advantage
Seems like an option that would at least be worth discussing with the publisher?
At the least I would suggest to keep a statistic on BGA indicating if the 1st player won or not.
Then you would be able to check if there really is a significant 1st player advantage after many plays.
• Quin és el meu navegador?
Safari v15.3
• Si us plau, copieu/enganxeu el text mostrat en anglès en comptes del teu idioma. Si tens una captura de pantalla d'aquest error (bona pràctica), pots utilitzar Imgur.com per pujar-ho i copiar i enganxar el link aquí.
Of course there are not enough plays and no statistics yet.
But just looking at the game and the fact that it ends immediately when any player has placed 15 flowers: it seems very likely that the first player might have a significant advantage.
There is a BGG post about it also, that proposes an alternative start:
boardgamegeek.com/thread/2814687/simple-variant-removes-first-player-advantage
Seems like an option that would at least be worth discussing with the publisher?
At the least I would suggest to keep a statistic on BGA indicating if the 1st player won or not.
Then you would be able to check if there really is a significant 1st player advantage after many plays.
• És aquest text disponible al sistema de traducció? Si és així, ha sigut traduït fa més de 24 hores?
• Quin és el meu navegador?
Safari v15.3
• Si us plau, expliqueu el vostre suggeriment de manera precisa i concisa, per que sigui el més fàcil d'entendre possible.
Of course there are not enough plays and no statistics yet.
But just looking at the game and the fact that it ends immediately when any player has placed 15 flowers: it seems very likely that the first player might have a significant advantage.
There is a BGG post about it also, that proposes an alternative start:
boardgamegeek.com/thread/2814687/simple-variant-removes-first-player-advantage
Seems like an option that would at least be worth discussing with the publisher?
At the least I would suggest to keep a statistic on BGA indicating if the 1st player won or not.
Then you would be able to check if there really is a significant 1st player advantage after many plays.
• Quin és el meu navegador?
Safari v15.3
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11 de març 2022 19:14 • PiratJack • Els desenvolupadors estan d'acord que és una bona idea i estan planejant treballar-hi:
Hello,
That sounds like a great idea!
Unfortunately, the rule on BGA is to stay as close as possible as the base game. I'll share the suggestion with the publisher and see if they're open to that adaptation.
I'll add the statistics on the 1st player as well, to see if it makes a huge difference or not.
Regards,
PiratJack
That sounds like a great idea!
Unfortunately, the rule on BGA is to stay as close as possible as the base game. I'll share the suggestion with the publisher and see if they're open to that adaptation.
I'll add the statistics on the 1st player as well, to see if it makes a huge difference or not.
Regards,
PiratJack
13 de març 2022 15:01 • PiratJack • Els desenvolupadors estan d'acord que és una bona idea i estan planejant treballar-hi:
Hello,
I have added a statistic to know who won. It should help identify whether there's a balance problem or not. We'll see in a few days / weeks!
Regards,
PiratJack
I have added a statistic to know who won. It should help identify whether there's a balance problem or not. We'll see in a few days / weeks!
Regards,
PiratJack
9 de set. 2024 11:23 • lioness65 • Els desenvolupadors estan d'acord que és una bona idea i estan planejant treballar-hi:
Anything new about this? Please check my post boardgamearena.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=189502
10 de set. 2024 20:51 • PiratJack • Els desenvolupadors estan d'acord que és una bona idea i estan planejant treballar-hi:
Hello,
Sorry, I haven't been very active on this. I reached out again to the publisher, to see if they would allow me to do this. I now have a more direct contact with them, but I can't guarantee any delay on the answer (my contact may even have left the company, it's been a year since I talked with him last time).
Regards,
PiratJack
Sorry, I haven't been very active on this. I reached out again to the publisher, to see if they would allow me to do this. I now have a more direct contact with them, but I can't guarantee any delay on the answer (my contact may even have left the company, it's been a year since I talked with him last time).
Regards,
PiratJack
11 de set. 2024 2:51 • lioness65 • Els desenvolupadors estan d'acord que és una bona idea i estan planejant treballar-hi:
Thank you for checking, PiratJack!
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