#37708: "Hecate vs heroes"
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• Si us plau, copia i enganxa el missatge d'error que veus a la pantalla, si és que n'hi ha algun.
In this specific game, Polyphemus used its power but since the second dome was build over Hecate, the power was not discarded.
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• Si us plau, què volies fer, què vas fer i que va succeir
31 and 48
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Google Chrome v89
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• Si us plau, copieu/enganxeu el text mostrat en anglès en comptes del teu idioma. Si tens una captura de pantalla d'aquest error (bona pràctica), pots utilitzar un servei d'allotjament d'imatges de la teva elecció (per exemple, snipboard.io) per penjar-la i copiar/enganxar l'enllaç aquí. És aquest text disponible al sistema de traducció? Si és així, ha sigut traduït fa més de 24 hores?
In this specific game, Polyphemus used its power but since the second dome was build over Hecate, the power was not discarded.
• Quin és el meu navegador?
Google Chrome v89
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• Si us plau, expliqueu el vostre suggeriment de manera precisa i concisa, per que sigui el més fàcil d'entendre possible.
In this specific game, Polyphemus used its power but since the second dome was build over Hecate, the power was not discarded.
• Quin és el meu navegador?
Google Chrome v89
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• Què es mostrava a la pantalla quan estaves bloquejat (pantalla en blanc? Part de la interfície del joc? Missatge d'error?)
In this specific game, Polyphemus used its power but since the second dome was build over Hecate, the power was not discarded.
• Quin és el meu navegador?
Google Chrome v89
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• Quina part de les regles no s'han respectat per l'adaptació de BGA
In this specific game, Polyphemus used its power but since the second dome was build over Hecate, the power was not discarded.
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• És visible la violació de les normes durant la repetició de la partida? Si es així, en quin número de moviment?
31 and 48
• Quin és el meu navegador?
Google Chrome v89
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• Quina va ser l'acció del joc que volies fer?
In this specific game, Polyphemus used its power but since the second dome was build over Hecate, the power was not discarded.
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• Què intentes fer per dur a terme aquesta acció del joc?
31 and 48
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• Què va passar quan ho vas intentar fer (missatge d'error, missatge de la barra d'estat de la partida, ...)?
• Quin és el meu navegador?
Google Chrome v89
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• A quina fase del joc va passar l'error (quina era la ordre en curs)?
In this specific game, Polyphemus used its power but since the second dome was build over Hecate, the power was not discarded.
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• Què va passar quan vas intentar dur a terme l'acció del joc (missatge d'error, missatge de la barra d'estat del joc, ...)?
31 and 48
• Quin és el meu navegador?
Google Chrome v89
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• Si us plau, descriviu el problema de visualització. Si tens una captura de pantalla d'aquest error (bona pràctica), pots utilitzar un servei d'allotjament d'imatges de la teva elecció (per exemple, snipboard.io) per penjar-la i copiar/enganxar l'enllaç aquí.
In this specific game, Polyphemus used its power but since the second dome was build over Hecate, the power was not discarded.
• Quin és el meu navegador?
Google Chrome v89
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• Si us plau, copieu/enganxeu el text mostrat en anglès en comptes del teu idioma. Si tens una captura de pantalla d'aquest error (bona pràctica), pots utilitzar un servei d'allotjament d'imatges de la teva elecció (per exemple, snipboard.io) per penjar-la i copiar/enganxar l'enllaç aquí. És aquest text disponible al sistema de traducció? Si és així, ha sigut traduït fa més de 24 hores?
In this specific game, Polyphemus used its power but since the second dome was build over Hecate, the power was not discarded.
• Quin és el meu navegador?
Google Chrome v89
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• Si us plau, expliqueu el vostre suggeriment de manera precisa i concisa, per que sigui el més fàcil d'entendre possible.
In this specific game, Polyphemus used its power but since the second dome was build over Hecate, the power was not discarded.
• Quin és el meu navegador?
Google Chrome v89
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In cases where the interaction of two powers is too complex for us to code -or- if the interaction is causing confusion for BGA players -or- if we determine the interaction is very unfair, we will add more bans.
Some examples:
boardgamearena.com/bug?id=21093 - too difficult to code
boardgamearena.com/bug?id=29287 - confusing
boardgamearena.com/bug?id=33571 - unfair
I think the official rules don't include *any* bans between normal gods and heroes, because they don't expect you to mix them in the same game (that's for expert players only). For example, the official rules do not ban Circe vs heroes, but this is clearly unfair and must be banned.
Also, the "How to play" page now lists the banned matchups for each power: en.doc.boardgamearena.com/Gamehelpsantorini
For Hecate vs Heroes, I think this can be fixed and am happy to help to reduce Hecate's ban list.
It is still my view that the treatment of hero powers vs God powers is incomplete at best, but mostly they did not consider these interactions at all. Remember, the official rules do not ban Clio vs. any heroes, but they should (it is not fair for Clio to steal a one-time power, use it herself, and discard it... nor is it fair for Clio to steal a one-time power, use it herself, and return it).
The situation with Hecate vs. heroes is the same. There's no fair way to resolve the problem of a partially-cancelled hero turn. Imagine a one-time power related to moving, where the hero's movement is valid but the building is not. It's not fair to cancel only the build portion of the turn and still discard the one-time power about movement (you wouldn't have wasted the one-time ability if you couldn't do the whole turn). Nor is it fair to let them keep the one-time power (since technically it was used). Nor is it fair to just cancel the entire turn. There's no good way to resolve this interaction. The rules here are completely broken. It should reman banned to remain fair.
I must disagree with you. I think Hecate vs Heroes should not be banned. The heroes can still use their power as in a normal game and if well used, it could be very difficult for Hecate to counter (for example, Bellerophon is a clear example of a hero that would be very strong against Hecate). The thing is, as an hero you have to make sure you use your power well. If you suspect Hecate might interrupt your turn, then just don't use your power at all and save it for later. I understand that implementing Hecate vs Heroes could lead to some changes (and that would be perfectly understandable)... But I wouldn't mind to play with an hero against Hecate, I wouldn't feel like I was in disadvantage.
Afegeix quelcom a aquest report
- Un altre ID de partida / ID de moviment
- Prémer F5 ha ajudat a arreglar el problema?
- El problema apareix diversos cops? Cada cop? a l'atzar?
- Si tens una captura de pantalla d'aquest error (bona pràctica), pots utilitzar un servei d'allotjament d'imatges de la teva elecció (per exemple, snipboard.io) per penjar-la i copiar/enganxar l'enllaç aquí.
