#19689: "Manual scoring + muggins variant (failing at scoring benefits the opponent)"
De què tracta aquest informe?
Què ha passat? Si us plau, selecciona a sota
Què ha passat? Si us plau, selecciona a sota
Si us plau, comprova si ja existeix un informe sobre el mateix tema
En cas afirmatiu, si us plau VOTA per aquest informe. Els informes amb més vots tenen PRIORITAT!
| # | Status | Votes | Game | Type | Title | Last update |
|---|
Descripció detallada
-
• Si us plau, copia i enganxa el missatge d'error que veus a la pantalla, si és que n'hi ha algun.
I wonder if this variant can be considered, a manual scoring in which when a player misses points when scoring, those points go to the opponent.
-
• Si us plau, què volies fer, què vas fer i que va succeir
• Quin és el meu navegador?
Google Chrome v83
-
• Si us plau, copieu/enganxeu el text mostrat en anglès en comptes del teu idioma. Si tens una captura de pantalla d'aquest error (bona pràctica), pots utilitzar Imgur.com per pujar-ho i copiar i enganxar el link aquí.
I wonder if this variant can be considered, a manual scoring in which when a player misses points when scoring, those points go to the opponent.
-
• És aquest text disponible al sistema de traducció? Si és així, ha sigut traduït fa més de 24 hores?
• Quin és el meu navegador?
Google Chrome v83
-
• Si us plau, expliqueu el vostre suggeriment de manera precisa i concisa, per que sigui el més fàcil d'entendre possible.
I wonder if this variant can be considered, a manual scoring in which when a player misses points when scoring, those points go to the opponent.
• Quin és el meu navegador?
Google Chrome v83
-
• Què es mostrava a la pantalla quan estaves bloquejat (pantalla en blanc? Part de la interfície del joc? Missatge d'error?)
I wonder if this variant can be considered, a manual scoring in which when a player misses points when scoring, those points go to the opponent.
• Quin és el meu navegador?
Google Chrome v83
-
• Quina part de les regles no s'han respectat per l'adaptació de BGA
I wonder if this variant can be considered, a manual scoring in which when a player misses points when scoring, those points go to the opponent.
-
• És visible la violació de les normes durant la repetició de la partida? Si es així, en quin número de moviment?
• Quin és el meu navegador?
Google Chrome v83
-
• Quina va ser l'acció del joc que volies fer?
I wonder if this variant can be considered, a manual scoring in which when a player misses points when scoring, those points go to the opponent.
-
• Què intentes fer per dur a terme aquesta acció del joc?
-
• Què va passar quan ho vas intentar fer (missatge d'error, missatge de la barra d'estat de la partida, ...)?
• Quin és el meu navegador?
Google Chrome v83
-
• A quina fase del joc va passar l'error (quina era la ordre en curs)?
I wonder if this variant can be considered, a manual scoring in which when a player misses points when scoring, those points go to the opponent.
-
• Què va passar quan vas intentar dur a terme l'acció del joc (missatge d'error, missatge de la barra d'estat del joc, ...)?
• Quin és el meu navegador?
Google Chrome v83
-
• Si us plau, descriviu el problema de visualització. Si tens una captura de pantalla d'aquest error (bona pràctica), pots utilitzar Imgur.com per pujar-ho i copiar i enganxar el link aquí.
I wonder if this variant can be considered, a manual scoring in which when a player misses points when scoring, those points go to the opponent.
• Quin és el meu navegador?
Google Chrome v83
-
• Si us plau, copieu/enganxeu el text mostrat en anglès en comptes del teu idioma. Si tens una captura de pantalla d'aquest error (bona pràctica), pots utilitzar Imgur.com per pujar-ho i copiar i enganxar el link aquí.
I wonder if this variant can be considered, a manual scoring in which when a player misses points when scoring, those points go to the opponent.
-
• És aquest text disponible al sistema de traducció? Si és així, ha sigut traduït fa més de 24 hores?
• Quin és el meu navegador?
Google Chrome v83
-
• Si us plau, expliqueu el vostre suggeriment de manera precisa i concisa, per que sigui el més fàcil d'entendre possible.
I wonder if this variant can be considered, a manual scoring in which when a player misses points when scoring, those points go to the opponent.
• Quin és el meu navegador?
Google Chrome v83
Historial de denúncies
I have been tossing around the idea of muggings,
There are a couple of issues I can't get around
First it would slow down the game as each player would have to wait for the count, and an extra "turn" in turn based games, but if both players agree to this style it is no big issue.
Another is the UI
BGA GuideLines state
II-2 Use left clic only● The whole game should be playable with only simple left button mouse clicks.● Context menus should not be used.●Dragndrop should be avoided (if you want to use it anyway, you should make a click basedalternative available).● Mouse icon must change on cliquable elements (« cursor:pointer » CSS property)..
So I would have to display a grid of 29 buttons (0-29) or of 3 buttons +/-/OK and the user would have to click up to 29 times (if they are lucky)
The final hurdle is the muggins themselves,
I would have to display this interface to both players all the time, if I only give the opponent an opportunity to correct the count when a miscount is done then that would tip the player off that something was miscounted.
Then how would each situation be handled
Player A | Player B
---------------------------
correct | correct -- this is easy
correct | higher -- should there be a penalty*
correct | lower -- **
lower | lower than Player A
lower | higher than Player A
higher | lower than Player A
higher | higher than Player A
*from section 10.4a of the American Cribbage College rule book
If the judges determine that the play
was not a muggins, the opponent will be awarded
the points taken as a penalty.
** 10.4a
If the true amount
of underpegging is determined to be other than
the amount originally claimed, the caller is entitled only to the lesser of the claimed or true
amounts. In no case shall the amount of points
awarded for muggins exceed the actual number
of holes that could have been pegged had the
scoring been correctly done.
www.cribbage.org/NewSite/rules/ACCRuleBook2016.pdf
I am open to any suggestions, especially variants that will give BGA players more ways to play, I just don't know how to overcome these hurdles. Please feel free to offer more feedback
4 - 5 - 5 - 6
You'd click
5 - 5 - "score" : +2 pair
4 - 5 - 6 - "score" : +2 15
4 - 5- 6 - "score" : +2 15
4 - 5- 6 - "score" : +3 run
4 - 5- 6 - "score" : +3 run
just selecting and clicking "score" the way you select and put in the crib.
have "score" and "done" in the action bar.
A "simplistic" muggins would be to just _give_ to the opponent anything they missed, without making her do anything!
Otherwise you could then just give them same UI to the opponent who would just click "done" or click the missing scoring things.
Afegeix quelcom a aquest report
- Un altre ID de partida / ID de moviment
- Prémer F5 ha ajudat a arreglar el problema?
- El problema apareix diversos cops? Cada cop? a l'atzar?
- Si tens una captura de pantalla d'aquest error (bona pràctica), pots utilitzar Imgur.com per pujar-ho i copiar i enganxar el link aquí.
