#127847: "Simultaneous Actions"
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• Si us plau, copia i enganxa el missatge d'error que veus a la pantalla, si és que n'hi ha algun.
As Actions are simultaneous, I shouldn't be able to see what action has been made by other players who have already validated their action before I did mine
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• Si us plau, què volies fer, què vas fer i que va succeir
If I read "Lumberjack2022 places projects Tools and Tribe on left side, Writing and Masonry on right side", I can change my mind before placing my projects as I got these informations.
• Quin és el meu navegador?
Google Chrome v126
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• Si us plau, copieu/enganxeu el text mostrat en anglès en comptes del teu idioma. If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use a picture hosting service of your choice (snipboard.io for example) to upload it and copy/paste the link here. És aquest text disponible al sistema de traducció? Si és així, ha sigut traduït fa més de 24 hores?
As Actions are simultaneous, I shouldn't be able to see what action has been made by other players who have already validated their action before I did mine
• Quin és el meu navegador?
Google Chrome v126
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• Si us plau, expliqueu el vostre suggeriment de manera precisa i concisa, per que sigui el més fàcil d'entendre possible.
As Actions are simultaneous, I shouldn't be able to see what action has been made by other players who have already validated their action before I did mine
• Quin és el meu navegador?
Google Chrome v126
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• Què es mostrava a la pantalla quan estaves bloquejat (pantalla en blanc? Part de la interfície del joc? Missatge d'error?)
As Actions are simultaneous, I shouldn't be able to see what action has been made by other players who have already validated their action before I did mine
• Quin és el meu navegador?
Google Chrome v126
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• Quina part de les regles no s'han respectat per l'adaptació de BGA
As Actions are simultaneous, I shouldn't be able to see what action has been made by other players who have already validated their action before I did mine
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• És visible la violació de les normes durant la repetició de la partida? Si es així, en quin número de moviment?
If I read "Lumberjack2022 places projects Tools and Tribe on left side, Writing and Masonry on right side", I can change my mind before placing my projects as I got these informations.
• Quin és el meu navegador?
Google Chrome v126
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• Quina va ser l'acció del joc que volies fer?
As Actions are simultaneous, I shouldn't be able to see what action has been made by other players who have already validated their action before I did mine
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• Què intentes fer per dur a terme aquesta acció del joc?
If I read "Lumberjack2022 places projects Tools and Tribe on left side, Writing and Masonry on right side", I can change my mind before placing my projects as I got these informations.
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• Què va passar quan ho vas intentar fer (missatge d'error, missatge de la barra d'estat de la partida, ...)?
• Quin és el meu navegador?
Google Chrome v126
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• A quina fase del joc va passar l'error (quina era la ordre en curs)?
As Actions are simultaneous, I shouldn't be able to see what action has been made by other players who have already validated their action before I did mine
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• Què va passar quan vas intentar dur a terme l'acció del joc (missatge d'error, missatge de la barra d'estat del joc, ...)?
If I read "Lumberjack2022 places projects Tools and Tribe on left side, Writing and Masonry on right side", I can change my mind before placing my projects as I got these informations.
• Quin és el meu navegador?
Google Chrome v126
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• Si us plau, descriviu el problema de visualització. If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use a picture hosting service of your choice (snipboard.io for example) to upload it and copy/paste the link here.
As Actions are simultaneous, I shouldn't be able to see what action has been made by other players who have already validated their action before I did mine
• Quin és el meu navegador?
Google Chrome v126
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• Si us plau, copieu/enganxeu el text mostrat en anglès en comptes del teu idioma. If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use a picture hosting service of your choice (snipboard.io for example) to upload it and copy/paste the link here. És aquest text disponible al sistema de traducció? Si és així, ha sigut traduït fa més de 24 hores?
As Actions are simultaneous, I shouldn't be able to see what action has been made by other players who have already validated their action before I did mine
• Quin és el meu navegador?
Google Chrome v126
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• Si us plau, expliqueu el vostre suggeriment de manera precisa i concisa, per que sigui el més fàcil d'entendre possible.
As Actions are simultaneous, I shouldn't be able to see what action has been made by other players who have already validated their action before I did mine
• Quin és el meu navegador?
Google Chrome v126
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This is mostly critical for phase A and E, but could apply to all phases to avoid edge cases (mostly related to trying to get first place in military power)
imgur.com/YespSae
This is round 9 and in the screenshot, I can see what my opponent has chosen for his techs before I had to choose mine. As a result, I can estimate what his military strength will be and tailor mine accordingly. (I can increase my military but that costs me points in other areas so I want to do it only if gets me the crucial military points needed for bigger gain).
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My take on this:
The example shows that waiting for the other players to play is a serious advantage in some situations and this can be really detrimental to fairness and or speed of play, especially in turn-based mode.
I know that it is likely very difficult to change at this stage but it would be very beneficial to do so.
On the other hand, we should see what tech cards everyone has when they are not (seen as) placed.
The best, IMO, for phase A would be as follow:
- Display which techs are owned by everyone but not where they are placed
- Once a player has placed their techs, let them change their mind as long as the game is still waiting for someone (it's annoying to realize you made a mistake or a sub-optimal play but be unable to change while waiting potentially for 2 days for someone else to play...)
- Once everyone is done, reveal where everyone has placed their techs.
Many games with simultaneous turns do function like this.
I also think this is really the way the game is intended to be played IRL so this might actually be seen as a bug even though there is no explicit rule about peeking in the rulebook
Forum discussion:
boardgamearena.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=38358
This bug appears in _every_ game. The higher the ELO of players, the more critical it becomes.
Afegeix quelcom a aquest report
- Un altre ID de partida / ID de moviment
- Prémer F5 ha ajudat a arreglar el problema?
- El problema apareix diversos cops? Cada cop? a l'atzar?
- If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use a picture hosting service of your choice (snipboard.io for example) to upload it and copy/paste the link here.
