#1181: "Blue Team lost against Green without the gate "
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• Si us plau, copia i enganxa el missatge d'error que veus a la pantalla, si és que n'hi ha algun.
There is some paths that can avoid the gates
but Green won the game and Blue earned nothing.
I think Blue must earn golds. -
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There is some paths that can avoid the gates
but Green won the game and Blue earned nothing.
I think Blue must earn golds. • Quin és el meu navegador?
Google Chrome v35
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• Si us plau, expliqueu el vostre suggeriment de manera precisa i concisa, per que sigui el més fàcil d'entendre possible.
There is some paths that can avoid the gates
but Green won the game and Blue earned nothing.
I think Blue must earn golds. • Quin és el meu navegador?
Google Chrome v35
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• Què es mostrava a la pantalla quan estaves bloquejat (pantalla en blanc? Part de la interfície del joc? Missatge d'error?)
There is some paths that can avoid the gates
but Green won the game and Blue earned nothing.
I think Blue must earn golds. • Quin és el meu navegador?
Google Chrome v35
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• Quina part de les regles no s'han respectat per l'adaptació de BGA
There is some paths that can avoid the gates
but Green won the game and Blue earned nothing.
I think Blue must earn golds. -
• És visible la violació de les normes durant la repetició de la partida? Si es així, en quin número de moviment?
#67
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• Quina va ser l'acció del joc que volies fer?
There is some paths that can avoid the gates
but Green won the game and Blue earned nothing.
I think Blue must earn golds. -
• Què intentes fer per dur a terme aquesta acció del joc?
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• Què va passar quan ho vas intentar fer (missatge d'error, missatge de la barra d'estat de la partida, ...)?
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• A quina fase del joc va passar l'error (quina era la ordre en curs)?
There is some paths that can avoid the gates
but Green won the game and Blue earned nothing.
I think Blue must earn golds. -
• Què va passar quan vas intentar dur a terme l'acció del joc (missatge d'error, missatge de la barra d'estat del joc, ...)?
#67
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There is some paths that can avoid the gates
but Green won the game and Blue earned nothing.
I think Blue must earn golds. • Quin és el meu navegador?
Google Chrome v35
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• Si us plau, copieu/enganxeu el text mostrat en anglès en comptes del teu idioma. If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use a picture hosting service of your choice (snipboard.io for example) to upload it and copy/paste the link here. És aquest text disponible al sistema de traducció? Si és així, ha sigut traduït fa més de 24 hores?
There is some paths that can avoid the gates
but Green won the game and Blue earned nothing.
I think Blue must earn golds. • Quin és el meu navegador?
Google Chrome v35
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• Si us plau, expliqueu el vostre suggeriment de manera precisa i concisa, per que sigui el més fàcil d'entendre possible.
There is some paths that can avoid the gates
but Green won the game and Blue earned nothing.
I think Blue must earn golds. • Quin és el meu navegador?
Google Chrome v35
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According to the rules:
A team wins if:
- a dwarf from that team creates the connection to the treasure and the way there
isn‘t blocked by a door of the other color, or;
- a dwarf from the other team creates the connection to the treasure, but the way
there for his or her own team is blocked by a door of the wrong color.
Accordingly to the links given in the BGA Saboteur page (Expansion rules (Saboteur 2) : zmangames.com/rulebooks/Saboteur_2.pdf),
"Splitting the Treasure
Depending on whether there is an uninterrupted path from the start to the treasure or not, the
Gold-Diggers or the Saboteurs win the round. If the path to the treasure is blocked by a door,
only the dwarves from the team of the same color win."
There is no indication that only a colored team win if there is no door on the path.
If I'm wrong, could you give me a link with the rule giving the proper explanation about this behavior please ?
2fishki.ru/userfiles/saboteur_2.pdf
Just noticed this thread.
There is actually indication that only a colored team win if there is no door on the path.
Please see p.1 of sab 2 rules
New Dwarf and victory conditions (blue and green miners):
".......but they are IN COMPETITION"
"A teams win if one of their own dwarf finishes a path to the treasure."
The second statement would imply that blue opens gold, blue will win. As they are in competition, most likely this would also imply green would not get anything.
Hope this would help.
Hi Sergii,
BGA answered me already.
In fact, both of you are right. Your issue has revealed a translation error.
The programmers of BGA have followed the French rule version of the game. This rule, which I’ve checked long time ago, contains a badly translated sentence which is the cause of the wrong interpretation.
I will inform BGA of it and more importantly the French distributor.
I will keep you updated of any change applied by BGA.
Best regards,
Frederic
30 November 2016 at 10:25
So this was actually a bug, even though our reference rules said it wasn't ;)
It has been fixed today.
- Usually each team wins alone. Blue and green are competing for victory.
- Examples and exceptions:
* If a green digger creates a path to the treasure without any doors, the green team wins.
* If there is a blue door on the path, the blue team wins instead of the green team.
* If there is a blue door and a green door on the path, only the boss and profiteer win.
* If the boss, a saboteur, a geologist or the profiteer creates a path to the treasure without any doors, both teams win together.
The previous implementation did exactly that, so in fact it was correct. I reverted my change to get back to the proper implementation.
Hope things are clear now for everyone with the examples above :)
Have fun!
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