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#105636: "Undo for end of round action?"

rejected: Els desenvolupadors pensen que no és una bona idea o que el seu rati de cost/benefici és massa alt

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30 Nov 2023 23:38 • n1caboose • Els desenvolupadors encara no han analitzat aquest suggeriment:

30 Nov 2023 23:45 • Kayvon • Els desenvolupadors pensen que no és una bona idea o que el seu rati de cost/benefici és massa alt:

The end of round card play automatically ends your turn and prompts the next player, so we can't undo during someone else's turn. We can add a confirmation, though that starts requiring more clicks for players. Let us know if you'd like to do that.

1 Dec 2023 04:30 • n1caboose • Els desenvolupadors pensen que no és una bona idea o que el seu rati de cost/benefici és massa alt:

Confirmation would be good to have I think. Would that then allow for an Undo button to appear before this Confirmation is pressed?

1 Dec 2023 04:44 • Kayvon • Els desenvolupadors pensen que no és una bona idea o que el seu rati de cost/benefici és massa alt:

No, it would be an "are you sure?" button that appears when you try to buy a card. So you'd click either "gain 2VP" or "buy card" and then you'd choose the card and click "confirm" (I believe this is the current sequence; I'm sure the button names are better), then you'd add an extra click that reads "yes, really confirm" with better wording.

Buying a card is an atomic action that constitutes your entire turn at this point, so once you've confirmed the card your turn automatically ends and a player's turn begins. At that point, undo doesn't work because it interferes with the new player's turn.

18 Jan 2024 23:39 • Nasher1976 • Els desenvolupadors pensen que no és una bona idea o que el seu rati de cost/benefici és massa alt:

It's actually not buying the card I want to undo, it's the effect of the card which is to remove a token from my ship.

18 Jan 2024 23:53 • Kayvon • Els desenvolupadors pensen que no és una bona idea o que el seu rati de cost/benefici és massa alt:

Once you perform that effect, it is no longer your turn. At that point, undo doesn't work because it interferes with the new player's turn.

19 Jan 2024 00:35 • Nasher1976 • Els desenvolupadors pensen que no és una bona idea o que el seu rati de cost/benefici és massa alt:

It is still my turn, it's asking me to draw cards, therefore an undo should be available. The reason why this is important also is because it didn't ask me what influence marker to move up, it just gave me one option (perhaps another bug?)

19 Jan 2024 00:38 • Nasher1976 • Els desenvolupadors pensen que no és una bona idea o que el seu rati de cost/benefici és massa alt:

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19 Jan 2024 02:03 • Kayvon • Els desenvolupadors pensen que no és una bona idea o que el seu rati de cost/benefici és massa alt:

The amount of effort required to add an undo for this narrow case isn't justified. You can certainly undo your turn when you're taking it, but for the single decision (play a card or gain 2VP) at round's end, we won't be adding undo.

19 Jan 2024 08:49 • Nasher1976 • Els desenvolupadors pensen que no és una bona idea o que el seu rati de cost/benefici és massa alt:

It's not a narrow case, it's whenever you buy a card.

19 Jan 2024 14:24 • Kayvon • Els desenvolupadors pensen que no és una bona idea o que el seu rati de cost/benefici és massa alt:

The amount of effort required to add an undo for this single decision isn't justified. You can certainly undo your turn when you're taking it, but for the single decision (play a card or gain 2VP) at round's end, we won't be adding undo.

19 Jan 2024 14:33 • Nasher1976 • Els desenvolupadors pensen que no és una bona idea o que el seu rati de cost/benefici és massa alt:

This isn't about buying a card a round's end.

19 Jan 2024 15:53 • Kayvon • Els desenvolupadors pensen que no és una bona idea o que el seu rati de cost/benefici és massa alt:

Suggestion title: "Undo for end of round action?"
Suggestion text: "Would be nice to have an undo after buying the card"

> This isn't about buying a card a round's end.

This suggestion is about adding an undo to buying a card at the end of the round. It's been asked and answered, repeatedly.

When you give a single-line response to say that someone is wrong without explaining what you believe is right, it's simply argumentative. You're welcome to take such debates to the forums, but further argumentative responses will be removed from suggestions/bugs.

22 Mar 2025 14:40 • DarthCthulhu • Els desenvolupadors pensen que no és una bona idea o que el seu rati de cost/benefici és massa alt:

I agree this is a problem. There's no reason I shouldn't be able to undo the card I buy at the end of round. It's not the next players turn yet as I still haven't drawn a card. If I were playing with people in person, I could just say "oops never mind,I want to play this instead".

It's not that outlandish of a concept imo

22 Mar 2025 14:58 • Kayvon • Els desenvolupadors pensen que no és una bona idea o que el seu rati de cost/benefici és massa alt:

I agree, it's not outlandish. If it were as simple as checking a box, I would do it. The amount of effort required to add an undo for this narrow case isn't justified. You can certainly undo your turn when you're taking it, but for the single decision (play a card or gain 2VP) at round's end, we won't be adding undo.

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